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BrotherReins · Feb 09, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54

I was told this is the typical ranger spike build:

Punishing Shot {E}
Savage Shot
Dual Shot
Pin Down
Read the Wind
Favorable Winds
Lightning Reflexes
Resurrection Signet

I didn't get attributes. Is this about right?

Divine Elemental · Feb 09, 2006, 10:30 PM // 22:30

Punishing Shot
Savage Shot
Dual Shot
*Preparation*
Ressurection Signet
Ward vs Foes / Gale / Drain Ench
Whirling Defense
*Assigned Spirit*
Attribute
16 Marksmanship [ 12+4 ]
Others : Varies

E Power · Feb 10, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divine Elemental

Punishing Shot
Savage Shot
Dual Shot
*Preparation*
Ressurection Signet
Ward vs Foes / Gale / Drain Ench
Whirling Defense
*Assigned Spirit*
Attribute
16 Marksmanship [ 12+4 ]
Others : Varies

Dont listen to him :P.. J/k but yea... basic ranger spiking build.

Robster Lobster · Feb 10, 2006, 03:57 AM // 03:57

You might want a running skill on one of the rangers as well.

Divine Elemental · Feb 10, 2006, 04:14 AM // 04:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robster Lobster

You might want a running skill on one of the rangers as well.

Dodge / Whirling D

ayanaftw · Feb 10, 2006, 05:27 AM // 05:27

basic skills: Read the wind, dual, savage, punishing(or oath for spirits), whirling, res sig, <2 spots for different roles>

stats are 16 marks 14 expertise. u can drop a pt in marks for spirit spammers. 14 expertise is a must.

2 superiors so bonders r also a must.

Zephyr Jackson · Feb 10, 2006, 04:07 PM // 16:07

Speaking of Bonder...

Add Free Candy Canes for a Good Bonder

Rayndeon · Feb 10, 2006, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Wrong; A Spiker is a PvP build. Essentially, Ranger Spikers focus on having a group of usually 3-4 rangers supported with usually Necro hexes to attack one target quickly, before the enemy healer has time to help out.

Sofia Sofia Sofia · Feb 11, 2006, 08:06 AM // 08:06

Okay, so we're using that basic build too, works quite well in most situations. ATM we're using 3 Rangers...

What's the trade off for having a 4th shooter? I mean, with the full damage of 4 shooters, there are very few combinations of spirits, enchantments and hexes that can save a caster target.

Is it better to overkill than to occasionally fail to kill, but kill more efficiently?

onilink · Feb 11, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divine Elemental

Punishing Shot
Savage Shot
Dual Shot
*Preparation*
Ressurection Signet
Ward vs Foes / Gale / Drain Ench
Whirling Defense
*Assigned Spirit*
Attribute
16 Marksmanship [ 12+4 ]
Others : Varies

No res? although I guess if the build works correctly you don't need one.

art_ · Feb 11, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Div Elemental

Punishing Shot
Savage Shot
Dual Shot
*Preparation*
Ressurection Signet
Ward vs Foes / Gale / Drain Ench
Whirling Defense
*Assigned Spirit*
Attribute
16 Marksmanship [ 12+4 ]
Others : Varies

Quote:

Originally Posted by onilink

No res? although I guess if the build works correctly you don't need one.

?????

onilink · Feb 12, 2006, 01:25 AM // 01:25

Lol. guess I need to check my eyes.

3lite · Feb 12, 2006, 01:44 AM // 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofia Sofia Sofia

Okay, so we're using that basic build too, works quite well in most situations. ATM we're using 3 Rangers...

What's the trade off for having a 4th shooter? I mean, with the full damage of 4 shooters, there are very few combinations of spirits, enchantments and hexes that can save a caster target.

Is it better to overkill than to occasionally fail to kill, but kill more efficiently?

4th ranger just adds overkill damage and could help with spirits but when u have a oath shot spammer doesnt really matter. Where as with 3 u can have a n/o not only help with the spike (shadow strike,vamp) also can use orders and finally be support (tipically aegis) and martyr

icemonkey · Feb 12, 2006, 01:52 AM // 01:52

required skills are read the wind dual shot and savage shot, other than that each ranger will be different. Mostly the elite will be punishing but spirit spammers take oath(as previously mentioned) and sometiems poeple take quickshot.
The difference between 3 and 4 rangers is this, you get one orders for most spikes with 4 rangers and you get dual orders for every spike with 3 rangers. Basically 3 rangers with dual orders can do as much or more damage than 4 with 1 orders. Also with two orders necros you have a lot more versatility, you can put martyr on one of the necros and then you have another monk elite which is very valuble.

like every good build its a lot more complicated than x y z skills. If you want to be in a ranger spike pug after you join find out what everyone else is bringing and fit into the build with them

Draeco_Smash · Feb 21, 2006, 12:53 AM // 00:53

Doesnt matter what build you think your using...
Usually you should just do what your told...
the Spiker with any real pressure in an R spike Group is the leader... cuz hes calling tgt counting and ORGANIZING YOUR SKILLS TO BENEFIT THE PARTY.
The Orders Necro is also a pressure job because with out both orders up, spike probly wont work.

sorry about the spelling and the grammar...
I just really need sleep,
bottom line,
ALL YOU NEED FOR A GOOD R SPIKE GROUP IS....
A GOOD LEADER and by that... he should be able to put together a competent party...

Saborath Gilgalad · Feb 21, 2006, 05:22 AM // 05:22

I run Fast Cast Orders in Ranger Spike under
IGN Lady Horrifix
here's the build I use

Fast Cast 11+1
Blood 11
Death 8
Inspiration whatevers left +1

Rez Signet
Blood Rit
Strip Enchanment or Drain Enchantment
Inspire Enchantment
Inspire Hex or Rigor Mortis
Consume Corpse
Order of Pain
Order of the Vampire

Zephyr Jackson · Feb 21, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50

usually from what i know that a N/mo Runs oov, and the Me/N Runs Pain

lord of shadow · Feb 21, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02

if you are runnin a n/mo and me/n then the mesmer runs OoV and the necro runs OoP and Martyr (blindness is a killer), he also uses shadow strike and/or gzae to participate in the spike

SaintGreg · Feb 21, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05

From what I've seen its the oppostie, if there is an N/Mo orders and a Me/N orders, the Me/N will put out order of the vampire and a debuff, and the N/Mo will have order of pain and usually aegis, martyr, and mend ailment. This way the OoP is more powerful than the OoV since OoP gets multiplied by high marksmanship whereas OoV is constant damage.

wheel · Feb 21, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGreg

From what I've seen its the oppostie, if there is an N/Mo orders and a Me/N orders, the Me/N will put out order of the vampire and a debuff, and the N/Mo will have order of pain and usually aegis, martyr, and mend ailment. This way the OoP is more powerful than the OoV since OoP gets multiplied by high marksmanship whereas OoV is constant damage.

What are you talking about?